Senator SHERRY (Deputy Leader of the Opposition in the Senate)(4.08 p.m.) —Is Senator Campbell going to respond? We have the minister, Mr Reith, here. Perhaps we could facilitate him to move a little bit closer to Senator Campbell to provide some advice, because we are not getting very far when we do not get a quick response. Do you want me to go back to Better pay for better work ? Perhaps the minister can confirm Better pay for better work and why we do not have it here—Mr Howard's own statement in the objectives of this bill? Can you get some further advice on this?