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Thursday, 4 December 1986
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Senator KILGARIFF(11.31) —There has been a little controversy on the so-called sworn statements that have been mentioned in the Senate tonight. I ask Senator Giles and Senator Zakharov, as they have quoted from various sworn statements in the Senate, to table them. I do not think I need to seek leave. Honourable senators on this side have endeavoured to answer the controversial allegations made in these statements but I think in fairness to the Senate and all those concerned that the honourable senators should table those sworn statements. If they are not prepared to do so, I would ask them why they are not prepared to do so.


The PRESIDENT —Order! I think Senator-


Senator Gietzelt —Who does he think he is?


The PRESIDENT —Order! Senator Gietzelt.


Senator Gietzelt —Well, who does he think he is?


The PRESIDENT —Order! Senator Giles or Senator Zakharov may seek leave if they so wish to table documents in the Senate. If leave is granted the documents can be tabled. Senator Kilgariff is entitled to move under standing order 364 that the documents be tabled.


Senator KILGARIFF —Thank you, Mr President. I move:

That the statements be tabled.

I also take the opportunity to answer Senator Gietzelt. He asked who am I to do this. I remind Senator Gietzelt that I am a member of the Senate. I represent certain people in Australia and, regardless of the way in which Senator Gietzelt operates within his responsibilities, I have responsibilities too. Senator Gietzelt has absolutely no right to challenge me on this issue. On another point, I do not particularly refer to the camping of these women on the lawns of Parliament House but I refer generally to the practice of demonstrators camping on the grounds in front of Parliament House. I think that we have reached a rather extreme situation when demonstrators can come here and camp in front of Parliament House as if they have a right to do so.


Senator Ryan —On a point of order, Mr President: Senator Kilgariff has risen to move a motion. He has done that. He is now debating an entirely different matter.


The PRESIDENT —Order! In any event, I think Senator Kilgariff's motion is out of order at this stage. Standing order 364 states:

A Document quoted from by a Senator not a Minister of the Crown may be ordered by the Senate to be laid upon the Table; such order may be made without Notice immediately upon the conclusion of the speech of the Senator who has quoted therefrom.

Because of the last phrase in that standing order I think Senator Kilgariff's motion is out of order.