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Thursday, 24 March 2011
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Mr ROBB (2:14 PM) —My question is to the Prime Minister, and it is a supplementary to the member for Greenway’s question. I refer the Prime Minister to comments—

Government members interjecting—


Mr Albanese —Mr Speaker—


The SPEAKER —The Leader of the House will resume his seat.

Honourable members interjecting—


The SPEAKER —Order! Just for the record, this is of course not being treated as a supplementary question. The member for Goldstein has the call and he has the right to ask a question.


Mr ROBB —I refer the Prime Minister to comments yesterday by the head of the Productivity Commission, Gary Banks:

… it will not be efficient from a global perspective (let alone a domestic one) for a carbon-intensive economy, such as ours, to abate as much as other countries that are less reliant on cheap, high-emission, energy sources.

I ask the Prime Minister: why is she insisting on introducing a carbon tax before the rest of the world that will close down industry, cost jobs, increase the cost of living and give our trade competitors an unfair advantage? (Time expired)

Honourable members interjecting—


The SPEAKER —Order!


Mr Sidebottom interjecting


The SPEAKER —I will just say to the member for Braddon that I do not need any advice. If people want to talk on despite the limit to the duration of question time, that, I think, is sufficient a penalty for the whole House.


Mr Albanese —Mr Speaker, on a point of order: it goes to the question and the amount of argument that was in that question, clearly making it out of order.


The SPEAKER —The question stands. The Prime Minister has the call.


Ms GILLARD (Prime Minister) —I thank the shadow finance minister for adding to the member for Greenway’s question—an unusual move! The shadow finance minister asked me about the Productivity Commission review of international carbon pricing, and I think this is an important piece of work; I do. Gary Banks spoke about it on behalf of the Productivity Commission, and, as usual, when the opposition comes into this place and quotes documents, they quote selected pieces or indeed just misquote them entirely, because I will refer the shadow finance minister to the conclusion of Mr Banks’s speech. He said these words in conclusion:

While we may not be able to deliver everything that some people expect, I am confident the study can shed light on what other countries are doing, how the various policies work, the uncertainties surrounding the efficacy of many of them, how much they achieve and at what cost.

This is the work that the Productivity Commission has been asked to do to provide a stream of advice about action that is happening in other nations to embrace a clean energy future. This is one of a number of important pieces of work that are informing the government as we deliberate on carbon pricing. Those pieces of work include the reports and updates that people have seen released by Professor Garnaut over the past few weeks. Of course, we will also be informed by Treasury modelling.

The point that the shadow finance minister should draw from that is that there will be abundant information and facts available about the key matters that require judgment in the national leadership. Is climate change real? Well, there were climate change scientists in this parliament today available to members, hosted on a bipartisan basis, to talk about how the science is real, even though the Leader of the Opposition goes around denying it. Then of course we have the economic advice about the efficient means of acting, and the most efficient means of acting is by putting a price on carbon. Then we will have the Productivity Commission work, which will add to other streams of knowledge about how the rest of the world is acting, including China, India and the United States. What this means is that the shadow minister—who is not prepared to act in the national interest but joins the Leader of the Opposition in his fear campaign—would prefer that the economic future of this country had us being left behind the clean energy future of the rest of the world, with all the loss of prosperity that that would provide.

As this parliamentary week draws to a conclusion, I believe members, particularly coalition backbenchers, will leave this place thinking about questions of judgment. They will go back to their electorates and think about the judgment of the Leader of the Opposition as he denies the climate change science. They will think about the judgment of the Leader of the Opposition as he shares a platform with Pauline Hanson, something John Howard would never have done.


Mr Andrews —Mr Speaker, on a point of order: I put it to you that, by any stretch of the bow, this is no longer directly relevant.


The SPEAKER —The member for Menzies will resume his seat. The Prime Minister will directly relate her remarks to the question. The Prime Minster.


Ms GILLARD —I am talking about this parliament acting in the national interest; I am sure that should be relevant on all occasions. The government will continue to do that by pricing carbon, and people will look at the Leader of the Opposition, who called it wrong on the flood levy, who called it wrong on the health agreement, who is calling it wrong now and who particularly called it wrong yesterday, as a hollow man with no judgment.