Mr ANDREWS (Minister for Immigration and Citizenship) (7:04 PM) —The question is hypothetical. As I have explained to the honourable gentleman opposite, if he wants to look carefully at the refugee convention, he would find that it would be in a third country where a person would normally or ordinarily apply for refugee status. If he is making reference, for example, to the group of 83 Sri Lankans who were effectively picked up in the Indian Ocean, the reality is that all of those people were transmitted through a third country, some of them through more than one country, before their boat journey from Indonesia purportedly to some part of Australia.