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Monday, 21 October 2002
Page: 8225


Ms Gillard asked the Minister for Immigration and Multicultural and Indigenous Affairs, upon notice, on 17 September 2002:

(1) What meetings did he attend during his visit to Kabul in May 2002 and in each instance (a) at what time were the meetings scheduled to commence and conclude and (b) who was in attendance.

(2) Were there any scheduled meetings or commitments for which he was unable to attend or the time allocated was reduced.


Mr Ruddock (Minister for Immigration and Multicultural and Indigenous Affairs and Minister Assisting the Prime Minister for Reconciliation) —The answer to the honourable member's question is as follows:

(1) (a) I attended the following meetings while in Kabul on 16 May 2002 which commenced at the indicated time and cease shortly before the following meeting. An exact recording of the start and finish times of each meeting is not available:

1230 Luncheon meeting with:

Mr Enayatullah Nazari,

Minister for Refugees Affairs and Returnees

Mr Hadi

Deputy Minister for Refugees Affairs and Returnees

Mr Abdul Rahim Karimi

Justice Minister

Mr Armand Rousselot

Regional Representative, International Organisation for Migration

Mr Filippo Grande

UNHCR, Regional Representative

1400 Meeting with Mr Enayatullah Nazari

Minister for Refugees Affairs and Returnees

1510 Meeting with Dr Shirzai

Acting Foreign Minister

1540 Signing of an Memorandum of Understanding

Joint press conference with Mr Nazari

1615 Courtesy call on Chairman Hamid Karzai

(b) I was accompanied by the following to all meetings in Kabul:

Mr Bill Farmer, Secretary, DIMIA;

Mr Peter Templeton, Senior Adviser;

Mr Howard Brown, Australian High Commissioner to Pakistan and Ambassador to Afghanistan;

Mr Alan Hutchison, Principal Migration Officer Islamabad; and

Mr John Caspersonn, Principal Migration Officer (Compliance).

The party was also accompanied on all calls by the then Afghan Honorary Consul to Australia, Mr Mahmoud Saikal.

(2) The only scheduled meeting not to proceed was with Mr Youno Qanooni, Minister for the Interior which was scheduled for 1430 hours. Mr Qanooni was abroad, and a replacement meeting with his Deputy Minister (Police) Naziri did not take place as he was out of Kabul.