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Thursday, 28 June 2001
Page: 28887


Dr WASHER (3:37 PM) —My question is addressed to the Minister for Employment Services. Would the minister update the House on recent issues raised regarding job matching and the Job Network?


Mr BROUGH (Minister for Employment Services) —I thank the honourable member for his question. Over the last few days there have been a number of questions asked of me in this House by the Leader of the Opposition and the shadow minister. Yesterday, the member for Dickson asked me to confirm that I had accompanied my adviser on a visit to Leonie Green and Associates Gold Coast headquarters on 10 April, and I reconfirm to the House that I in fact did do that. After question time yesterday, I confirmed with my adviser that there was no discussion about the use of Leonie Green and Associates of—and I quote the shadow minister—`her labour hire firm to place job seekers into what the opposition are calling phantom jobs'.

The member for Dickson also asked me to confirm whether documentation regarding the future expansion of this scheme was supplied to me or my adviser by Leonie Green on 10 April. I can confirm that I was provided with three documents at this meeting, and I take the opportunity to inform the House of the title of each of these documents and to table them. The first one is Research utilization models: Frameworks for implementing evidence-based occupational therapy practice. The second document is entitled `As a Job Network provider how do we most effectively assist mature aged job seekers return to the workforce?' and the third document was Australian Occupational Therapy Journal, volume 47, issue 4, December 2000. I table them. They are the three documents that were referred to and they are also the subject of a notice of motion put on the Notice Paper by Senator Collins in the other place.

The notice of motion by Senator Collins last night also asked me to table a full copy of the interim report of the investigation currently being undertaken by my department as a result of the questions raised during Senate estimates hearings on 4 June. Before talking to that, Senator Collins also asked for a diary note, and I thought it would be worth while tabling that. At that particular meeting on 10 April—and it was an informal meeting—I was given a tour of the Leonie Green and Associates headquarters, met with her key personnel and, at that time, we had informal discussions. There were no notes taken and therefore there are no notes that I can table for you.

In relation to the interim report, my department advises me that it has been unable to provide an interim report, given the short time frame of this investigation. However, after receiving verbal briefing last night from the team investigating this matter, I directed my departmental secretary, Dr Shergold, to summarise the findings to date, to explain the issues which have been identified and the proposed action to be taken prior to the full report being made available. For the benefit of the House, I will now provide an overview of that letter, and I will then table it. The letter has today's date, and Dr Shergold writes:

As advised to you, despite best endeavours, it will take a further few weeks before a final Enquiry report can be completed. The key factor dictating this timetable is the need to undertake a complete survey of all Job Matching placements made since January 2001 with Anchorage Labour Hire (ALH), the company affiliated with Leonie Green and Associates (LGA), one of our Job Network members.

He goes on to say:

Whilst the Department's Legal Counsel has advised me that no evidence has been found to date of fraudulent activities on the part of LGA, it would be imprudent to draw a final conclusion until the Enquiry is completed. I should note that the company is co-operating fully with the investigations. It is essential to the success of the Enquiry that LGA and ALH be able to participate without being subject to external pressures or interference.

He goes on to say:

The investigations to date into the Job Matching activities of LGA through ALH have already been extensive, including formal interviews with management of both organisations, with staff in a large number of LGA's regional offices and with present and former employees. A thorough review has taken place of Departmental files and interviews have been conducted with relevant staff. These enquiries have identified a number of significant issues that need to be addressed including:

the appropriateness of certain claims for payment by LGA;

lines of accountability within the Department; and

Job Network policy issues, in particular relating to the current terms of Notification of Non-payable Outcomes and related contractual matters.

With respect to LGA's operations, what has already emerged is that a significant number of Job Matching places through the Victorian offices of ALH ... clearly involved people undertaking self-canvassing for jobs, which is not permitted under the contract. LGA has accepted that almost 200 payments were incorrect and has agreed to their repayment. ... Further inquiries will provide information on:

the extent to which the work undertaken fully satisfied the minimum 15 hour requirement over five days;

the extent to which placements arose from an extensive degree of job splitting; and

the nature and effectiveness of individual servicing received by job seekers in the arrangement of their placements.

He goes on to say:

From a thorough survey of the Department's records, I can also confirm that you were not briefed on any allegations relating to compliance or other aspects of LGA's activities—regarding either the market research work or telemarketing positions arranged through ALH—prior to that date. Furthermore a search of the minutes of the NESA Board meetings of 16 February, 6 April and 1 June 2001 indicate that no discussion of labour hire companies is recorded ...

... the Enquiry has noted that the Department's independent Investigation and Compliance Units, having identified a potential problem with the surge in Job Matching placements by LGA in February, commenced investigations of LGA claims through March and April 2001.

He also says:

... Finally, LGA never sought, nor could they have gained, approval from the Department to job seekers being `employed' in self-canvassing for their own jobs ... This practice is clearly at odds with contractual obligations under Job Network.

He further says:

Finally, in line with your wishes, I am expediting the conduct of the Enquiry to enable completion of the investigation as quickly as practicable, mindful of the importance of providing greater certainty for all Job Network Members and their clients. As indicated above, the major outstanding task for the Enquiry is to conduct a complete survey of all job seekers placed with ALH over the last six months. As directed by you, I will separately review the Department's policy framework to examine if any changes are required.

I table the full details of the letter provided to me by the secretary. In relation to a comment made in that letter by the secretary to me where he refers to there being outside interference, I inform the House that I have received an email today, dated 28 June, from Leonie Green, via the departmental secretary, Dr Peter Shergold. Ms Green writes:

Dear Peter,

... Cheryl has been calling my mobile phone numerous times asking for me to provide information for her to use ... It became obvious last week that while she offered me her “support” agreeing that LGA had not done anything wrong, she (her office) was simultaneously feeding misinformation to the press.

She goes on to say:

I can only suggest that this example of scare tactics is a desperate attempt to gain my confidence ... I find her actions deplorable and destructive. It appears that she spread this rumour widely and my staff (and their families) and our clients have been very adversely affected.

In this email she also provided me with a transcript of a message left on her phone service, dated Wednesday, 27 June, 11.48. The transcript says:

Hello Leonie, it's Cheryl Kernott. I can understand why you feel a bit tentative about speaking to me at the moment ... There's a strong rumour circulating that you're going to be closed down on Friday. And that could well be before the report's made public. You might want to talk to me about that before question time. I'm in my parliament house office ... and my direct line is 2112.

The shadow minister should not be spreading misinformation, let alone contacting a person who is the subject of an inquiry by this department. This is deplorable and destructive behaviour, and I call on the shadow minister to desist.


Mr Howard —Mr Speaker, I ask that further questions be placed on the Notice Paper.


Mr SPEAKER —Before I call on the Minister for Finance and Administration, I remind members that, under the standing orders, a general warning has been issued.