Mr ZAMMIT (11:16 AM) —I would like to make a passing reference to a couple of matters that were raised by the honourable member for Hindmarsh (Mrs Gallus). I will draw them together as they specifically affect the matter of insulation. I have now had the opportunity of seeing the amendments from the opposition which I very strongly support. I grew up in inner western Sydney in Petersham, and I can tell you that the issue of aircraft noise in those days was an issue but it was not that bad, even though I could actually see the pilot in the planes as they were flying overhead. I can tell you that my mother became deaf, and I know a lot of friends in that area that I have kept in touch with over all these years have also had hearing problems.

The difficulty is trying to ascertain how serious the problem is, and governments on both sides—all around the world, incidentally—have tried the best they can to ensure that that information is not made available. But the world has progressed a lot in the past 10 or 15 years specifically in regard to this issue. We now have access to community groups all around the world that assist each other and help each other to try to ensure that the people who are aircraft noise affected get the facts.

If I can offer one piece of advice to the honourable member for Hindmarsh, it is this: whatever Airservices Australia tell you, whatever they say to you, do not believe them. We have all been conned by them repeatedly. I personally have been conned by them. Airservices Australia's only role in life is to ensure that they get as many planes in and as many planes out.

I will say something else to the honourable member for Hindmarsh, because I think it is important that she draws on the experience that we have had over a very long period of time. We have in Australia a body known as CASA. The role of CASA is to ensure safety. I asked the head of CASA at a Sydney Airport Community Forum meeting 18 months ago or two years ago, `What is more important to you: the safety of the people in the aeroplanes or the safety of the people on the ground?' He said, `The answer is very simply this: my only role as head of CASA is to ensure the safety of the people in the aeroplanes.' I want the honourable member for Hindmarsh to note that. Their only interest is the safety of the people in the aeroplanes, and they do not care where these aeroplanes go.

The honourable member for Hindmarsh said that the issue of a cap is no big deal for Adelaide airport. I would suggest that it is. If she does not believe it is a big issue, it is going to become a major issue as more and more planes start to come into Adelaide airport. I would like her to know the experience that we have had, where at given times of the day because it suits the airlines there are very few planes coming into Sydney airport—no less than 20, 25 or even 30 flights an hour. That is no big deal—people can cope with that—but when it suits the airlines in the peak periods they are getting up to 70, 80 or 90 flights an hour. They were talking of going to even more flights an hour. In fact, only a few days ago the honourable member for Lindsay (Miss Jackie Kelly) said that Sydney airport should go up to 120 flights an hour.

I am suggesting to the honourable member for Hindmarsh—and it is still not too late—that if she is really fair dinkum about protecting her residents she should say, `I want to place a limit on any given hour of the day.' That would ensure that at any given hour of the day there are no more flights in and out of Adelaide airport than what people believe to be fair and reasonable. In other words, she is going to find that in the off-peak hours she might have only 10 flights an hour but in the peak hours a lot more planes than that will be coming in. That is how it is going to affect the people of Adelaide unless she says, `There has to be a limit. We are prepared to do all we can to assist industry. We are prepared to do all we can to assist the tourism industry, we are prepared to do all we can to assist the hospitality industry, but there has to be a limit in any given hour.' In other words, once the scheduled flights start arriving at a level that is uncomfortable for the residents, we are not suggesting they should not be coming into Adelaide airport; we are saying that, for the welfare and benefit of her constituents, they should reschedule to have these planes arriving and departing during the off-peak hours. (Time expired)